#158:Horace Dediu in Tel Aviv

Alex, Kirsten and Ed ran into Horace Dediu while moderating the 7th Annual Smart Mobility Summit in Tel Aviv, and of course they got to talking. What they managed to actually record includes a discussion of the "Galapagos" micromobility market in Israel, the still far-off potential of true mobility as a service, and the boundary between mobility as infrastructure and more premium markets.