Some big news surprised the world of autonomous vehicles this week, as Waymo and Jaguar announced plans to test and deploy autonomous versions of the Jaguar iPace. Alex, Kirsten and Ed discuss the ins and outs of the deal and its strategic significance, before turning back to the Uber crash that continues to hang over the sector. John Mullen of the simulation company RightHook returns to the podcast to discuss the comments that several of Uber's competitors have made in the wake of the crash, and provides a simulation expert's perspective on the crash itself.